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Tre Johnson's avatar

I love Ali's story of getting The Raise done and marketed, bc it makes for a really compelling boot-straps writer story. That being said, the admirable high production value isn't something that the average writer could likely afford, and I'm really curious about hearing even more - the timeline of this whole endeavor, what she's hoping to see as 'proof points' of a win(s) around taking this approach, and given the effort it took to do The Raise, how much of this both would be or should be replicable for another book (?).

As someone Big 5 published, I def agree with some of the feelings of frustration, limitation and even representation inside a publishing house. It's a macabre experience, and there's a tremendous amount of heft at times w/ a finished book that I didn't see coming that I'm carrying real time. AND there's also a lot of infrastructure, knowledge, relationships etc that I'm not only gaining, but applying to the situation too, that'll augment my next endeavor.

Self-publishing, as some friends and I have been chatting about, has a long history, particularly in Black circles, cities and communities, and it's always been vibrant. I think this example of The Raise should probably come w a lot of caveats around it. This was a supremely expensive set of costs - we're only reading about the marketing/publicity of the book! - and so I also wonder how much ppl can afford to invest in art this way. Like, I support Ali's "it's not about selling my art as a profit, but about it existing bc I created it", but the time/money price point on this stuff makes you wonder how many writers would be happy with a book that had this much resource investment and still didn't "sell" (which happens!)

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Ali Kriegsman's avatar

🫶🫶🫶loved this topic and thank you for the convo!!! The raise has risen

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